The Truth About Celebrity Organizers, Magic Wands, and the Reality of Professional Organizing

Posted on: June 12th, 2020 by Julie Bestry | 22 Comments

Yesterday, it happened again.

“It” is when someone (this time, on an international discussion-based web site I frequent) complains about needing organizational help but doesn’t know where to turn. Unfortunately, they don’t know that professional organizers even exist, or the only thing about organizing they’ve ever seen in the media is Marie Kondo’s show on Netflix.

The Kondo Thing and Celebrity Organizers

Many, many of my colleagues have written about the pros and cons of Kondo, her books, and her television show. However, I have always held off because while I think Kondo is an interesting character study in expert-as-celebrity, the profession of skilled, educated, non-judgmental, and empathetic professional organizers existed for many decades before Marie Kondo came along.

I think the big difference between Kondo and professional organizers in NAPO, ICD, POC, APDO-UK, and the like, is that we believe that systems need to be customized to the individual and hold that one system imposed onto everyone is a recipe for making people feel like failures.

For more than 18 years, I have been telling clients that “tidying” or “cleaning up” is about the stuff, but professional organizing is about the person who owns the stuff.

For more than 18 years, I have been telling clients that tidying or cleaning up is about the stuff, but professional organizing is about the person who owns the stuff. Click To Tweet

Kondo presents some intriguing approaches in her books and on her Netflix show. I’ve often noted that about 70% of what she discusses is the same advice all professional organizers offer; about 25% focuses on her very precise rubric of organizing methods; and about 5% is culturally specific to her background. Rather than writing about her, per se, I’d point you to some posts by my colleagues, who are better able succinctly share their thoughts:

Marie Kondo isn’t going to be the last famous organizing expert. She’s certainly not the first. When I started my professional organizing business, Julie Morgenstern was starting her meteoric publishing ascent. She won a national award at the NAPO conference in 2002, the first I attended, and her Professional Organizing from the Inside Out was already becoming a classic. I devoured her books, as I had done with Bonnie McCullough’s Totally Organized and Barbara Hemphill’s Taming the Paper Tiger books in the 1980s. A bit later, Oprah Winfrey, who helped make Julie Morgenstern a household name, brought Peter Walsh from Clean Sweep stalwart to media stardom

Good for them. Good for us (the professional organizers). Good for you (the readers who want to get organized)!

Concert Pianists and Magic Wands

I often tell a story about my mother, known to many of you readers as Paper Mommy. When I was little, I asked her what she wanted to be when she grew up. She smiled and said “A concert pianist.” Having just started piano lessons, I encouraged my mother to take lessons with me, and launched into a fantasy of her stellar career in music. I will never forget my mother’s incredible self-awareness and honesty when she explained that she didn’t want to become a concert pianist, she wanted to be one. She wanted the magic wand.

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Celebrity professionals in all fields, including my own, offer the magic wand: the idea that there is one method, one Holy Grail of organizing that will work for all! It’s pretty compelling.

Superstar professional organizers do one great thing. They let people know (or remind those who have forgotten) that life does not have to be a series of frustrations and overwhelms. Help is available, whether that’s from a book, or a professional organizer, or the guidance of a more experienced friend or relative.

I’ve got news for you. I don’t care whose advice you follow. I mean, sure, I’m delighted that you’re on my blog and come here for advice on organizing. And I love my clients and wish I could clone myself and work with all of the clients who want and need my help, especially now, when so many people have been stuck at home and ostensibly have the time to focus on such projects. (On the plus side, I am now offering virtual services, which means that I can help more people in shorter bursts of time to kickstart their advancement toward organizing and productivity goals.)

But it’s not about me. Or Marie. Or Peter. Or Margareta Magnusson, the lovely lady who wrote The Gentle Art of Swedish Death Cleaning. (For what it’s worth, I find the Magnusson’s gentle, homespun psychological approach to downsizing to be far more applicable to my clients’ lives than most other “star” advice.)

No, it’s not about any of the celebrity organizers, or even my less-famous but fabulous colleagues in NAPO, ICD, POC, and the various organizations within the International Federation of Professional Organizing Associations.

It’s about the client. It’s about you. It’s about being ready and willing to make changes. 

The No. 7 Moisturizer

Sometimes, people just want advice on buying storage containers – without ever having given thought as to whether they should hold onto everything they’re going to put in those bins. They believe the right container will solve all of their problems. And sometimes (a lot of the time), people look at celebrity organizers as the magic wands, or in this case, the magic storage bins.

Speaking of Marie Kondo, she’s back in the news lately because she’s hawking her (rather pricey) products appealing to the same human instincts to which we’re all subject. I’m a good example. Years ago, the posh-sounding UK brand No. 7 started selling products in the United States. They came out with a Protect and Perfect, a product designed to smooth the skin and given the just-starting-to-age face a nice boost. The product wasn’t that expensive, and I wasn’t looking particularly decrepit, but the ads in the glossy magazines were compelling, and I plunked down my $20 at Target.

Then two things happened.

First, after the initial few times I used the product, I slacked off. I’m not much of a beauty product person. I don’t watch the influencers on Instagram and YouTube to learn how to make a perfect smokey eye. (Though, six weeks into the pandemic quarantine, I did watch my stylist’s video on how to style my overly long bangs. Twice.)

Second, as time went by, even though I had only used the product in a lackluster fashion and hadn’t seen much effect when I did use it, every single time I saw an ad for the No. 7 product in the beauty magazines, I had a little blip of “I want that.” I had it. I’d used it. I’d blown it off. But I STILL WANTED IT. Advertising is insidious that way.

We want what the product or service promises, even if I’m not willing to do the work. Even if it’s not the right product for me. It’s the fantasy, not the reality.

Kondo’s first magic wand was her method; her second selling a series of “joy-sparking” products  – including a $58 brass cookbook stand, a single shelf for $135, and a $69 set of three cardboard boxes for inserting in your drawers.

Celebrity organizers offer the fantasy. Some offer good advice. Most offer advice that will work if you follow it, as long as you:

  • are able to follow it to the letter
  • have the time, money, and physical dexterity to follow it to the letter
  • don’t have clinical depression, an anxiety disorder, ADHD, a traumatic brain injury, a family member who has any of these complicating issues, a toddler who likes to touch things rather than sit pristinely and quietly in the middle of the room, pets, or spouses who act like toddlers or pets…
  • possess the unerring ability to confidently make decisions without the support of others, have the resources to know what should be donated vs. consigned vs. sent to live on a farm upstate, and
  • are incredibly self-motivated to start, continue, and finish a product without any guidance, support, or accountability

Is that you? Yay! But if it’s not you, and you’ve ever felt like a failure because the organizing advice in a book or on a TV show wasn’t enough to deliver the solutions you were seeking, you’re a member of a pretty big club.

For the same reason people who work with fitness coaches achieve more than those who buy exercise videos but never take them out of the plastic (or if they do, feel so awkward that they never make it through the first viewing), not everything works well as a solo endeavor.

Just as not everything is one-size-fits-all.

Just as not every organizer is for every client.

The Reality of Professional Organizing

Professional organizers have different specialities. Some organizers are generalists. Others specialize in types of clients (students, seniors citizens, new parents) or in locations (kitchens, closets, law offices, warehouses). I think of myself as a generalist who specializes in paper management and productivity.

In 2007, under the auspices of NAPO, the Board of Certification for Professional Organizers created a certification program requiring 1500 client-collaborative hours in order to sit for a comprehensive exam. This exam spans content related to client assessments, project plan development, implementation, and maintenance, and ethics. Recertification is dependent upon continuing education.

The Institute for Challenging Disorganization has certificate and specialist credentialing programs programs for organizing practitioners who work with clients with special needs relating ADHD, chronic disorganization, hoarding disorders, and aging.

There are other formal specialities. NAPO members can earn specialist certificates in residential organizing, household management, life transitions, workplace productivity, and team productivity. In addition to being a CPO, I’m an Evernote Certified Constultant. Affiliate with our professional are Senior Move Managers and Daily Money Managers (financial organizers). And yes, Marie Kondo even has training for practitioners who want to organize according to her methods.

The thing I’d love everyone to know is that your professional organizer can have the best training, be the most compassionate provider, and excel in delivery of services and breadth of expertise. But you, the client, are the key to everything.

You have to want more than a changed result. It’s essential to change the behavior that got you to this place of dissatisfaction in the first place. You may have to set boundaries with your child or your pet or your spouse. You may have to develop skills to figure out why you keep buying your own equivalent of No. 7 miracle youth-making skin care products, whether they are blank notebooks you never use, cute outfits you never wear, or healthy produce you never eat.

(Hey, I get it. Professional organizers do aspirational shopping, too. I’ve thrown out a lot of fuzzy vegetables in my time. ShoppingJulie has more confidence in my cooking skills than DiningJulie ever will.)

So What Should You Do?

I’m not advising you stop reading organizing and productivity books or magazines. (I love a good Real Simple multi-page spread on decluttering your entryway as much as the next person!) I’m not saying to stop watching home-improvement TV shows. They can be very entertaining, and these days, darned comforting. I certainly don’t even want you to stop decluttering or creating systems.

I just want you to know that just like the airbrushed bodies in magazines don’t really look like that, the gorgeous rooms in the IKEA and Container Store catalogs and Houzz and House Beautiful don’t look like that in real life, or 92 days into quarantine, or three days after Christmas, or in the middle of summer vacation, or after the whole family has been down with the flu.

Reality TV makes things look tidy, but reality is messy. Professional organizers can help. But none of us, not even (or especially not) the celebrities, have magic wands. You have to want more than the end result; you have to be willing to do the hard work (with us at your side) to gain the mental muscles to confidently make decisions and real behavioral changes.

22 Responses

  1. Ditto for many of my wardrobe clients. Lots of them have “aspirational lifestyle” wardrobes when what they wear-like-need is comfy, casual clothes.

    PS: During the early 80’s I followed Lady Di’s make-up trends: overly blushed cheeks, hi-gloss lips, and blue mascara! So, there’s that!

    • Julie Bestry says:

      Aspirational acquisitions, and then aspirational solutions — but without behavioral changes, it can be for naught.

      Geralin, were you hoping to become royalty? You’re already organizational royalty! 😉

  2. Seana Turner says:

    This is excellent, Julie. It really comes down to the work of sorting, reviewing, deciding, designing, loading and maintaining. There needs to be willingness and desire and commitment. I never criticize anyone who draws attention to the profession, but I don’t think you need expensive boxes inside your drawers. In fact, as I’m sure you do too, I always start with what clients already have on hand. I say, “We can always come back later and add make it look prettier later.”

    • Julie Bestry says:

      Thank you, Seana! And yes, other than possibly file folders, I never encourage clients to buy ANYTHING before we work, and tell them that purging and behavioral/structural changes come first, and containment solutions last. But either way, no one person’s ONE system can possibly work for everyone.

  3. Lucy Kelly says:

    Sing it, Julie! So many of us are searching for the magic bullet that’ll solve all our problems if we just do *exactly* what we’re told.

    It’s hard work to come up with organizing solutions that’ll work for us, but it’s the only way to lasting change. Ask my clients who store their clean clothes in the laundry room and have never looked back! Weird? Arguably. Effective in keeping up with the laundry? Undeniably.

    P.S. Your example of No.7 products made me laugh – as a formerly British person, I grew up thinking of it as the workaday, affordable brand – and even with that background, when the line was introduced in the States a while back, I found myself craving it and thinking it was the answer to all my skincare problems!

    • Julie Bestry says:

      I love your laundry example, Lucy. I always tell my clients that the only rules that matter are the ones that work for them. Want to call your dining room the “Craft Room” and stop using it for the purpose shown on the blueprints? Go for it, and stop feeling guilty.

      As for No. 7, I think because it was aligned with Boots, which already seemed awfully exotic to us stateside, we figured it had to be posh. Visiting the UK in September, I got to go to an actual Boots, and was amused that it just seemed like a more sparkly Ulta+CVS!

  4. Ellen Delap says:

    I love this analysis and especially appreciate your mention of certificates and certification. In all of this, we have to do the work to get organized with a trusted professional. Sadly there is no magic wand.

  5. … Julie, SPOT ON. Absolutely fabulous article.
    When my clients ask my thoughts about Marie Kondo, I can truly only respond:

    “I have never met her personally, but I’m sure she is a lovely woman.
    And, I’ve been a Professional Organizer since before she was born.”

    Full stop.

    MER ?

  6. LISA GESSERT says:

    Excellent! I am a big Julie Morgentern fan, she is what made me become a PO way back when! But you are spot on with this article. As for Marie Condo, I get asked all the time “are you going to Marie Condo me”? I just say NO..LOL

  7. Your writer’s block was worth the struggle because you wrote an incredible piece. I’m curious about what got you going, but I’m so glad you did.

    Everything you say makes so much sense. I agree that no matter how educated, compassionate, or fabulous an organizer is, real change comes down to how willing and ready the client is for it. When you described your mother’s insight about wanting to BE a concert pianist, but not wanting to do the work to get there, that is often true for our clients. They want the result but aren’t ready to focus on the work that’s needed to make change happen.

    The other thing is fit. There are so many different organizers with varying personalities, work styles, and experiences. Finding one that fits for the client is essential. We aren’t the same, and neither are our clients. The “right” match can make the difference between a successful or frustrating experience for the client and organizer.

    • Julie Bestry says:

      It looks like we’re on the same page, Linda. And the catalyst was exactly as I alluded to at the start of the post — someone not knowing we existed, and then someone else replying with Kon-Mari tips. It’s like how, in productivity, GTD has taken on an almost religious following, when the precepts are largely universal, but presented in a different style. Honestly, I don’t think there’s anything new under the sun, but each client’s perfect patch of sunlight will come from matching with the right organizer.

  8. I can really relate to the magic wand aspect of your post. So many of my clients think that productivity/organization is a destination and not a daily practice.

    Plus, I always LOVE a good Paper Mommy quote. Her brilliance is timeless.

  9. Julie, I echo what the others have said. This post is super fabulous. You nailed it! Don’t we all wish we had a magic wand to wave over our clients’ heads to enable them to change their behavior? Thank you so much for putting this out there.

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  11. Alys Milner says:

    Terrific article, Julie!

  12. Alessandra says:

    Thank you for this article. I have a real problem with organizing, I get panicked, and don’t know where to start. In your article I discovered that it might be a disorder; I didn’t know there was such thing! Also, I did felt worse and wrong after watching the celebrity organizers making it look so easy and basic…and not being able to maintain what I had achieved after a difficult reorganization, with a pet, a baby, a toddler and an husband that behaves like a toddler… well, now I feel better, and I feel like I might be helped

    • Julie Bestry says:

      Alessandra, thank you for this lovely message. It’s especially common to have difficulty organizing after a major life transition. I hope you’ll consider working with a professional organizer in your region, and PLEASE know that anyone you work with should be patient, empathetic, and non-judgmental. We all have different skills and talents, and we can all collaborate on building a world.

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