Paper Doll Picks: Organizing and Productivity Podcasts
FINDING THE RIGHT EXPERTS
I’m often the most tech-savvy person my clients know. One lovely client in her eighties often greets me at the door and just hands me her iPhone. “There’s a devil in it,” she half-jokes, and she’s happy to relinquish it to me for what is usually an easy fix.
Conversely, my college friends, mostly guys, laugh at the idea of me being technological. On the phone, I once fretted over having possibly failed to install memory in my computer because it didn’t “click.” After an hour of various difficulties culminating in the uncertainty over installing the memory, I groused, “Shouldn’t it click? Y’know, like how after I put on my lipstick, I close my compact and it makes a satisfying click?!” They’re still teasing me about that apparently “non-techy” description.
There’s an old expression: In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Leaving aside the able-ist nature of the expression, I feel comfortable using this to explain that while some people feel that “a little knowledge is a dangerous thing,” I think that the more you know, the more you realize that you don’t know, and the more inspired you are to seek out experts.
As such, I’m starting a new feature, Paper Doll Picks, where I will occasionally provide links to bloggers, authors, and other experts to whom you can turn when you need a little extra help.
As a Certified Professional Organizer, I’m an organizing and productivity expert. As an Evernote Certified Expert (formerly Evernote Certified Consultant), I know more than your average user. And, as a former television executive and lifelong TV viewer, I can spot when an infinitesimally small clue (a cough, a camera shot resting an extra second on a wine glass, or a character’s lingering glance) means something and will be able to connect it with things that happen seven seasons later.
But in the kitchen, I’m a perpetual newbie and need to turn to Paper Mommy. (For a variety of life skills — cooking, addressing an invitation to an ambassador and spouse, medical stuff of all stripes, I turn to her. We call it Opening the Mommy Encyclopedia.)
Nobody is expected to know and be able to do everything. Sometimes, that other old rubric is important: it’s not what you know, but whom you know!
Today, I want to introduce (or re-introduce you) to some excellent podcasts and podcasters.
THE APPEAL OF PODCASTS
If you don’t listen to podcasts, stick with me here. I admit, I don’t listen as often as many people seem to do. But when you’re walking or working out, when you’re stuck in a doctor’s office waiting room or waiting for a much-delayed flight (as Paper Mommy is doing, just as I’m writing this), podcasts have distinct advantages.
They’re as informative as blog posts and articles, but you can take it in while doing other tasks. Every try reading a blog post in the bath? You can’t read an article while driving, and if your commute is by train, subway, or car, audio is far less marred by bumps. (You won’t get carsick listening to an organizing podcast, but watching text bounce up and down may not be good for your equilibrium.)
Another nifty advantage to podcasts is that you can control the speed at which you listen to (or watch) podcasts! I listen to almost everything on 1.25x speed because I’m an impatient person. When a speaker talks at “normal” speed, I feel like I’m being held captive by Dory in Finding Nemo when she’s speaking Whale. Sooooooooo slowwwwwwww!
Conversely, when I’m trying to listen to podcasts in Italian, the language I’ve been diligently studying for 4 years, the organic speed of language just zips right past me, and I only get a handful of words. By the time I realize I understood anything, they’re onto the next topic. Listening at .75x helps me make out the words without going into Dory mode.
ORGANIZING AND PRODUCTIVITY PODCASTS
These are a few of my favorite podcasts in the realm of organizing and productivity.
NAPO Stand Out Podcast
The NAPO Stand Out Podcast — This official podcast of the National Association of Productivity and Organizing Professionals began in 2018 with an interview of its first guest, my stellar and stylish colleague Geralin Thomas of Metropolitan Organizing. Now, it’s just a few shows away from its 100th episode.
The NAPO Stand Out podcast offers up compelling interviews with NAPO members and subject matter experts (like author Gretchen Rubin, friend-of-the-blog Allison Task, whom I interviewed in Paper Doll Interviews Life Coach, Author, and Kid-Schlepper Allison Task, and Indistractable author Nir Eyal).
For the first few years, the show was hosted by Sarah Karakaian of Nestrs. (You might know Sarah and her husband, a home improvement, design, staging, and short-term rental management team from HGTV, their Thanks for Visiting AirB&B podcast, or Instagram.)
Now, the podcast is hosted by Canadian professional organizer and TV personality Clare Kumar, an all-around cool chick with a laugh that can draw in even the grinchiest of grinches. Clare specializes in helping Highly Sensitive Persons (HSPs) optimize their professional performance, and she has her own podcast, Happy Space with Clare Kumar, all about helping HSPs find their own happy spaces.
The NAPO Stand Out podcast invites organizers, productivity experts, and anyone interested in these fields to listen in as guests share their successes, challenges, best practices, proven strategies, industry developments, and fabulous anecdotes.
Take a peek at the most recent episode, Discover Your Organizing Style, where Clare interviews Cass Aarssen about how her own struggles with clutter led her to create the Clutterbug Organizing Styles.
Watch and listen to past episodes through the archives at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Stitcher, and elsewhere.
Smead’s Keeping Your Organized Podcast
Smead’s Keeping You Organized — It still breaks my heart a bit that this magnificent video and audio podcast, hosted by John Hunt, is no longer being produced. It was an amazing podcast designed to provide all manner of practical and philosophical organizing and productivity information to viewers.
John is a delightful interviewer — you can see him being interviewed for an early episode of the NAPO Stand Out podcast, here — and all sorts of North American professional organizers got to share their expertise.
Happily, all 278 episodes of the show are still available, including the eight times I was the guest. You can listen or watch those here, or at the episode page:
041: Secrets to Organizing a Small Business
108: Fears that Keep You from Getting Organized
153: Paper vs. Digital Organizing Part 1
154: Paper vs. Digital Organizing Part 2
203: How to Get Organized When You Have an Extended or Chronic Illness – Part 1
204: How to Get Organized When You Have an Extended or Chronic Illness – Part 2
263: Essential Lists for Organized Travel – Part 1
264: Essential Lists for Organized Travel – Part 2
Sadly, all of my appearances were from before I had a decent video podcast background or lighting, so you may want to listen rather than watch (or risk being distracted by weird shadows and my often–weird hair).
The Productivity Lovers Podcast
The Productivity Lovers Podcast is hosted by two of my friends and colleagues, Certified Professional Organizers Cris Sgrott of Organizing Maniacs and Deb Lee of D. Allison Lee.
Both are organizers and productivity specialists; Cris is also a coach and speaker who specializes in senior move management and helping people with chronic disorganization and ADHD. Deb is a digital productivity coach and possesses one of the greatest analytical minds of anyone I know. (Deb’s my go-to for solving online platform kerfuffles, but also for making sense out of things that seem incomprehensible.)
Launched one year into the pandemic, Cris and Deb’s podcast was a balm for any lonely organizer’s (and organizing client’s) soul. Listening along when I get my 10,000 daily Fitbit steps in or watching the video version as if I were Zooming with them, I often find myself talking back to these ladies, forgetting that I’m not really part of the conversation — because they are that warm, friendly, funny, and honest.
At least once an episode, I laugh at how they make one another laugh, with much of the humor coming from their mismatched productivity styles. Deb is all-digital; Cris is hybrid but leans into her love of paper planners. Cris calls herself a Hot Potato Productivity person, while Deb is super-focused.
Cris and Deb cover all sorts of productivity issues, from paper planners to Inbox Zero, the Pomodoro Technique to how organizing is portrayed in the media. Every episode is a lighthearted conversation between two friends, but the audience is never forgotten, as they invite our responses on their Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube pages.
Come for the conversation, stay for the detailed show notes and discussion points. Pick from the audio versions via your favorite podcast app or on the episode page; watch for the video version on YouTube a week or two later. Here’s a recent episode, to give you a taste.
Organize Your Stuff
Organize Your Stuff — My colleague, buddy, and fellow mastermind group member, Maria White of Enuff With the Stuff hosts this podcast, which invites people from all points along the organizing spectrum to help them see possibilities.
While Maria has been on hiatus for a bit, there are 37 episodes covering topics ranging from “Do You Trello?” (yes, dear readers, I do!) and “Organized Adulting” to “Finally Accomplish Goals Using the 48 Week Achievement Guide” (with our fellow masterminder, Karen Sprinkle) to “Drastic Downsizing for Tiny Living” (for folks eager to learn more about living in a tiny house). Maria accents self-compassion and realistic approaches as she interviews industry experts and provides her insights and tips on organizing.
Organize Your Stuff is audio-only, so feel free to take it with you wherever you go, whether via Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, or on the Organize Your Stuff episode page. Take a tiny taste of the show as we pull episode #14, Tickle Yourself Organized, out of the vault. As you may have guessed, she interviewed me, your own beloved Paper Doll!
Anything But Idle (and the Super-Friends)
Anything But Idle is hosted by Ray Sidney-Smith and Augusto Pinaud, and it would be one of my favorite podcasts even if these guys didn’t delight me by inviting me on the show on occasion.
Ray is the Ryan Seacrest of productivity podcasters; he’s everywhere! In addition to Anything But Idle, he currently hosts or has previously hosted oodles of productivity-adjacent podcasts, including:
- The ProductivityCast with Augusto and regular contributors Francis Wade (about whom I’ve written several times, including at Paper Doll Shares Secrets from the Task Management and Time Blocking Summit), and Art Gelwicks. The show explores personal productivity and includes interviews with experts, reviews of both the scientific literature and mainstream media takes on productivity, and looks at technology’s role in, and effects upon, achieving what you set out to do.
- Getting More Done with Evernote, where Ray talks about product updates, interviews Evernote experts (including staff of the big green elephant company), and answers submitted listener questions. The show has been on hiatus since last year, but Ray is re-launching soon, and I’m going to be a guest. Whoohoo!
- Productivity Book Group — This is a quarterly book club and podcast rolled into one, and the archives include episodes dating back to 2013. You could create an entire productivity-themed reading list from the archives of this show, read the books, and then listen to the associated episodes to augment your understanding. The show isn’t limited to professional productivity; one recent episode focused on Clea Shearer and Joanna Teplin’s The Home Edit.
- ProdPod — Dating back to 2011, this might be the one that started Ray’s podcasting empire. In under two minutes, each podcast explores a productivity-related topic, like minimalism, procrastination, burnout, or indecision.
While I am a Certified Evernote Expert, Ray lives and breathes Evernote, and is one of two people (fellow organizer Stacey Harmon is the other) to whom I turn when an Evernote issue makes my hair hurt.
But back to Anything But Idle!
Ray partners with Augusto Pinaud, a bilingual productivity and technology sweetie pie of the highest order. His company, Productivity Voice, is the umbrella over Augusto’s coaching services, books, and podcasting work. In addition to co-hosting Anything But Idle and the ProductivityCast with Ray, Augusto has hosted Connecting Invisible Dots, a limited-run podcast focused on looking at the big issues, like personal definitions of time, achieving focus, and understanding priorities.
Wow, and all those shows don’t even include all of the podcasts represented by Anything But Idle’s regular guests. (Sometimes I think I may be the only guest they’ve ever had who doesn’t have a podcast!)
Anything But Idle bills itself as the “Productivity News Podcast.” Every week, Ray and Augusto introduce productivity and technology stories in the news and discuss their relevance. Guests are given the opportunity to read (and think about) the articles and editorials in advance, so listeners are treated to a lively, informed discussion. This opens up the floodgates for really wide-reaching, unexpected, extemporaneous chat; as a guest, I’ve felt supported, and as a viewer or listener, I always feel entertained and better informed.
Each week also includes a round-robin opportunity for each person to present a technology or productivity resource. There’s always at least one thing (and usually many) to make you go “hmmmmm.”
You can watch the podcast live or catch up on past video versions of the episodes at the show’s YouTube page; the show is live at 6 p.m. EST most Monday nights. (Click “Set a Reminder” on the show page to make sure you don’t forget.) If you prefer audio versions, you can peruse the Anything But Idle episodes archive, or subscribe and listen on your favorite podcast app at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, or Stitcher.
The most recent episode is up in all locations, but you might find it fun to watch their 100th episode. I was a guest, and a REALLY fun time was had by all.
Frank Buck: Productivity for Total Control & Peace of Mind
Frank Buck: Productivity for Total Control & Peace of Mind — Dr. Frank Buck is a longtime educator and educational administrator, as well as a fellow Evernote Certified Expert. (He’s also another familiar face on Ray and Augusto’s podcasts!) Frank is the author of several books, including the most recent, Get Organized Digitally! The Educator’s Guide to Time Management.
Wow! I love podcasts and will listen to some of these. Thanks for curating them into one post.
I’m so glad, Sabrina. I hope you find some podcasts that resonate with you!
Your intro reminds me that I was once deemed the “PC SME” (SME = Subject Matter Expert) in our work group at the phone company. Every work group had one (for screening purposes, so as to not overwhelm the IT department with the most basic issues) and I was the one who knew the most about PCs, but I actually knew very little. This was in the 90’s. My strategy was that whenever someone came to me with a problem I would listen patiently. Often as not, the person would solve their own problem just by talking it out. If not, my standard reply was, “Have you tried rebooting your computer?” That solved 90% of the remaining problems!
I, too, miss John (and Leiann) at SMEAD, and was a several-time guest podcast-wise — and don’t forget the blogger roundups!
You’ve got a great line-up here. My own favorite podcast features a NAPO member and her life coach friend: Janine Adams and Shannon Wilkinson. It’s called “Getting to Good Enough”. (“A podcast about letting go of perfectionism so you can do more of what you love.”) It’s not as techy as some of the ones you’ve mentioned, but it totally does help with organizing and productivity to let go of perfectionism.
Great point! I had Janine and Shannon in mind, and a handful of other non-organizing/productivity podcasts, as well. Perhaps they’ll be in this summer’s follow-up series. (I’m going to do follow-ups on a bunch of different posts this past year with updates and expansions.)
Hazel, thanks so much for the shout out for Getting to Good Enough! I’m thrilled to hear that it’s your favorite podcast!
Julie- You cracked me up once again. You said that you don’t listen that much to podcasts and yet your description and knowledge that you shared here says otherwise. I love the way you describe each of the podcast hosts, the type of content they share, and why you enjoy them so much.
I tend enjoy reading posts than listening to podcasts, but the times I have listened, I like it very much. It’s just that for me, I have a hard time listening and doing something else at the same time and that makes me restless. I’m not sure why I’m that way. With reading, I don’t have the same issue.
But all this is to say, I DID listen to some snippets from the podcasts your shared. So maybe I’ll need to explore some more. Thank you for the nudge and great list of podcasts to check out.
Heh, Linda, you caught me. I’m that one-eyed king, for sure!
Podcasts are like a one-sided conversation; you have less effort to make to stay aware of the flow, but it makes for great companionship. I can’t listen while I’m doing anything that requires mental connection, but it’s like doing the laundry and talking to a friend. Only this friend is doing all the talking. (Except when I talk back to Cris and Deb!)
Thanks for reading!
What a great list of organizing podcasts, Julie! Thank you so much for sharing your favorites! I have got to get into the habit of listening to podcasts as I do other things, say cleaning the house. I am WAY behind on the NAPO Stand Out Podcast, which is absolutely where I’ll start. 🙂
I’m so pleased that you are embracing podcasts, and if it makes you feel any better, Nicole, I’m also still catching up on all the NAPO Stand Out episodes. But what an inspiration to get outside this summer and get in my 10,000 steps!
If anyone on the planet would be a favorite-est of all favorite podcast host, it would be you, Julie!
I enjoyed this post and am absolutely addicted to podcasts and FWIW, I enjoy the Overcast app.
Thanks so much for including me in your fab post!
Glad to hear the vote of confidence in Overcast. I use the default Apple podcast app, but I’ve heard excellent things about Overcast. As you know, I always take your advice, Geralin, so it’s going on my app refresh list!
And if I start a podcast, I’ll be calling on you to be my guest! Someday!
Is there a lot of wisdom out there about organizing or what? I’m so impressed as I read through all of these, many of which I already know about. I am not a big user of Evernote, so those are certainly new to me. I loved the Smead podcasts as well, and miss John Hunt and Leiann! I felt they really “got” us.
I have to admit that I am a bit “Johnny come lately” to podcasts because I so often listen to music or books. However, they are growing on me. I can see I have some serious (or seriously informative) listening to do.
I get it, Seana. I listen to podcasts in fits and stars, bingeing a few over a week and then not listening to any for a while. And yes, I so miss John and Leiann!
Wow! I am not a podcast listener. I do lots of walking and prefer to listen to my thoughts and ideas as I amble along with my four-footed friend, Josie. I do, though, appreciate this round-up. My plan is to start listening to some of these podcasts is the car (as I am so often stuck in Atlanta traffic!). Thank you for this marvelous review of what’s available in podcast land!
Thanks for reading, Diane. I think we all have our own best listening styles, and it’s important to what fits us best. Enjoy these podcasts as you toodle around the Perimeter!
All I can say is WOW. Thank you for sharing all these podcasts. I am not a podcast listener so I am thankful that you welcomed me to the world of podcasting.
Hey, Julie, I hope you find a podcast (or a few) that appeal to you!
I love round ups like this. I don’t listen to many podcasts since I don’t have a commute, but I do like to keep a selection on hand for car trips. Thanks for doing the work of putting this list together!
Thanks for reading, Dava, and I hope you’ll let me know if one (or more) of these podcasts resonate with you!
Great post! The effort your put into your blog posts, Julie, is mind boggling. I’ll be one of your subscribers when you start that podcast!
LOL, thanks for letting me boggle your mind, Janine. And though I stuck very specifically to organizing and productivity podcasts, I’m with Hazel. Yours and Shannon’s is wonderful!